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The Crest was used by the BSA (and is STILL used by some 30 or so local Councils) to award to youth leaders for completing a set of individual training application requirements (similar to a "ticket" which Wood Badge participants must complete) in order to receive and wear the emblem. The emblem was originally designated as a "permanent" emblem but that designation was removed by the BSA in 1980 with the end of the "ALL OUT FOR SCOUTING!" leadership training emphasis. <P> There are several versions of the Crest out there. In 1981, the leadership of the Blue Grass Scouting Alliance Club at Eastern Kentucky University asked and received permission to alter the Crest and to use it as its official organizational crest. More information on the Crest of Leadership and the BGSA can be found <a href="http://www.scoutinsignia.com/bgsa.htm"> on a separate page. </a> <P> </td> </tr> </table> </td> <td valign="top" width="20" background="images/v_line02.gif">&nbsp;</td> <td valign="top" width="601"><br> <B>Insignia</B> <!----------START OF TEXT AND IMAGE BLOCK BELOW THIS LINE ---------------------> <p align="right"><font size=1 face="Arial,Helvetica"> <!---this is in "division/item/location/description" format -- do not depart from format ---> <I><B> <a href="cub.htm">Cub Scout</a> <a href="uniform.htm">Uniform</a> <a href="history.htm">History</a> <a href="csusflag.htm">Cub Scout US Flag</a> </I></B> <!----This may be "Adult/Uniforms/Right Side/Temporary Insignia" ----> <!----Mike, maybe some help: Division is Cub Scout, Boy Scout, Venturing, Adult> <!----(Applies to vols and pros) Items can be program, uniform, flag -----> <!--- Location can be rside, rfront, lfront, lside, headgear, neckwear, term ---> <!--- Description matches first word in title or what item is -----> </font></p> <p><font face="Arial,Helvetica" size=6> <strong><CENTER>Cub Scout U.S. Flag (reference)</CENTER></strong></font></p> <!-------THE TITLE SHOULD BE THE SAME AS THE TITLE ABOVE ----------------------> <!--- If posting an item from Scouts-L or a newsgroup, don't forget the mention ---> <!--- <h4>By Mike Walton,<br>Scouts-L Youth Programs Discussion Group</h4> -----> The following discussion is provided for REFERENCE ONLY; current BSA policy for the wear of the U.S. flag by Cub Scouts (as well as all other members) are located <A HREF="usflag.htm">here</A> <P> Allen and some other Scouters wrote me and/or posted to several blogging or discussion forums: <P> <B><I>"Mike. I cannot remember any time in my Scouting experiences -- and it goes back to the 60s -- when Cub Scouts wore their US flag emblems anywhere except on the right shoulder. As a matter of fact, I don't recall any Cub Scouts wearing a flag emblem on their shoulder. Where are you getting all of this information from?</B></I> <P> From the BSA. In particular, from the BSA's Insignia (Control) Guides of the day. Here's the summary: <P> In 1967, the BSA modified their Cub Scouting program, introducing they hoped would be a wonderful one-year transition program from Cub Scout to Boy Scout. They called the program the "WEBELOS" program, the name short for "WE'll BE LOyal Scouts!" the goal of the program. WEBELOS Cub Scouts were members of their own Den, under the leadership of a male WEBELOS Den Leader and Assistant. The WEBELOS program was the only part of the Cub Scouting program which mandated that males only serve as Den Leaders and Assistants. That policy went away in the 80s. <P> As part of the new program, a new insignia piece was designed. Called the WEBELOS "badge colors", the colors consist of braided yellow, red and green (the three colors of the BSA programs -- Cub Scouting in the center; Boy Scouting and Exploring to either side) woven material held together with a curved bar (later the bar was straightened) and worn on the top edge of the right shoulder. On this special emblem would be placed small metal (silver colored originally; later full colored and laquered) pins representing 15 (later 20) activity areas. <P> Because the WEBELOS badge colors were worn on the right shoulder, the BSA decided that Cub Scouts ONLY would wear the U.S. flag emblem if they chose to, above the "national program identity strip" above the right pocket of the Cub Scout blue uniform. Here's pages from the 1973 and 1978 BSA Insignia (Control) Guides illustrative of how the optional Flag emblem would be worn: <P> <CENTER><img src="insignia/1973flag.jpg" alt="page from 1973 Insignia (Control) Guide"><br> <B>page from 1973 Insignia (Control) Guide showing US Flag placement <br> <img src="insignia/1978flag.jpg" alt="page from 1978 Insignia (Control) Guide"><br> page from 1978 Insignia (Control) Guide showing US Flag placement</B> </CENTER> <P> Here is an example of a Cub Scout wearing the U.S. Flag emblem on his uniform back then; and a couple of representative photo images from Yahoo's photo gallery which illustrates how the U.S. flag emblem was worn by Cub Scouts from the 60s, 70s and early 80s. <P> <CENTER><img src="images/csflag60.jpg" alt="Cub Scout uniform from 60s"><br> <B>Cub Scout uniform from 60s period showing US Flag placement <br> <img src="images/cs-shawn.jpg" alt="Photo of Shawn Cleary, circa 1976"><A HREF="http://www.truenorthscouting.com"><br> Cub Scout Shawn Cleary wearing uniform from 70s period showing US Flag placement</A> <br> <img src="images/csflag80.jpg" alt="page from 1978 Insignia (Control) Guide"><br> Not exact Cub Scout uniform from 80s showing US Flag placement</B> </CENTER> <P> <HR> Credits: Scans courtesy of Liz Reid done for Mike Walton; images of Cub Scouting uniforms taken from Yahoo(tm); Cub Scout appearing wearing earlier Cub Scout uniform provided by Pam DeGrand and Shawn Cleary <!-- end of comments --> <br><CENTER> <br><font face="Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=1><strong> This webpage is designed for printing, three-hole punching, and insertion into <a href="www.rosewalton.com/binder">Your Binder!</a><BR></strong><br><br></font> <BR></CENTER> <font face="verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif" size=1> <A HREF="http://www.settummanque.com"><IMG SRC="buttons/treebutn.jpg">Back to The Tree</A><BR> <A HREF="http://www.scoutinsignia.com"><IMG SRC="buttons/knotbtn.jpg">Insignia mainpage</A><BR> <P> <FONT SIZE=-2><CENTER><B><I>&copy; 2016 Settummanque! </I><BR> <I>Designed by <A HREF="mailto:kyblkeagle@aol.com?Subject=Webpage Design"> Mike Walton </A><BR><center><a href="http://www.coffeecup.com"> <img src="http://www.coffeecup.com/editorbutton.gif" border=0><br> <font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">Created with the CoffeeCup HTML Editor</font></a><BR> *Boy Scouts of America, BSA, the Universal Emblem, Arrow of Light, Cub Scouts, Eagle Scout, Scouting, Order of the Arrow and all other related marks and insignia, are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Boy Scouts of America in the United States and/or other countries. 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